Warner’s Safe Cure: The Early Bottles

Shoulder Embossed Safe CureShoulder Embossed Safe CureSafe Cure Full SlugWarner\'s Safe K&L Cure Slug PlateWarner\'s Safe Bitters Half PintA&DHC BottleworksWhen Warner first began producing his Remedies, his available products were limited to his Safe Kidney & Liver Cure, Safe Pills, Safe Bitters and Safe Diabetes Cure. He picked up where Craig left off in more than one way. Not only did he purchase the right to produce Craig’s Cure, he adopted the amber bottle that had packaged his cures. Although the embossed Safe would become one of his trade marks (See Beware of Fraud!), one of his earliest bottles had no Safe embossed on it. Rather, Warner’s Safe Cure was embossed around the shoulders of the bottle. This shoulder embossed Warner’s Safe Cure (WRG 7) was thought by Seeliger to be the first Warner bottle used; however, based on the existence of a labelled version of the bottle owned by Jack Stecher, he and Ojea suggested the bottle may have been used as late as 1883 as a transition bottle before Warner released his 3 Cities bottles (Rochester, Toronto and London). This idea was based on the fact that the label listed not only the Rochester office, but also the Toronto (1882) and London (1883) offices. The shoulder embossed Safe Cure used to be a fairly common Warner’s bottle; however, as they have been taken off the market include personal collections, these bottles have become increasingly difficult to obtain and WRG now classifies them as “Scarce.”

The early Warner bottles are also characterized by the so-called “double collar”  or sometimes the “medicine collar,” both of which were later replaced by the blob collar, and by a full slug plate on the face of the bottle. If you look on the base of these early bottles, you will frequently, although not always, see the mark of the bottle maker “A&DHC”. This mark represents the product of Alexander & David H. Chambers or the Chambers Works of Pittsburgh (1843-1889). These early Warner’s bottles with the double or medicine collar, full slug plate and A&DHC mark are much more difficult to obtain by collectors and are rated as Scare to Rare by WRG.

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6 thoughts on “Warner’s Safe Cure: The Early Bottles

  1. I have a Warners Safe Bitters Bottle for sale. It has an (embossed Safe)/Rocheser N.Y. all in slug plate on front, A&DHC,on base, oval 7 1/” high, amber, applied short square collard lip, bold embossing. It was discovered when my husband was replacing the natural gas pipe line in down town Atlanta, Ga. He had to dig through the present street, a cobble street, and then down. The bottle is very beautiful. It was buried every since the Civil War when Atlanta, Ga. got burned to the ground. It has no flaws. The only thing is that when it is dry, its a very beautiful light blue with some pink and amber. When you wet it it turns it back to the original amber color all over. It has much history it its self. It is one of the bottles in the bottle Hall of Fame. Please advise me of how much you know the bottle is worth and where I can find a buyer for it.
    Thanking You In Advance, dianecurlee@AOL.Com

  2. I have 2 “Warner’s Kidney & Liver Cure” bottles, both with the double collar. One has a #1 on the bottom and the other a 11. Could you tell me what these numbers mean and what year these bottles were made and what they are worth? I am looking to sell them on Ebay…Thanks so much…

    • Hi Diane,

      I can’t tell you what the numbers mean. I suspect that they are simply mold numbers from the glass works that created the bottles. The double collar style was the earlier version of the K&L Cure and is dated probably around the mid-1880’s. The double collar was later replaced by the blob top, which lasted into the 19th Century and was eventually replaced by the ABM version. As with most bottles, value is determined both by rarity and condition. The K&L Cures are the most common of Warner’s bottles with an average value in the $20-25 range. If they are sparkling mint or are a very light amber, that value might go up slightly. By the same token, if they are stained or damaged, the value could be considerably less. My post on the various lips on Warner bottles gives you some idea of the variations out there: https://warnerssafeblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/warners-safe-cure-its-all-in-the-lips/.

      Hope this helps.

      Steve

  3. hi guys what will you say is the value of of the bottle. the 8oz warner’s safe remedy rochester,ny blob top brown and a B on the bottom

    • Marlene, as with most bottles, condition is very important to value. The 8oz Safe Remedies from Rochester is probably valued at $50-80 in good condition. Hope that helps.

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